But the software itself is expensive - I *think* I got it at an introductory price of $900 but don't hold me to that. Faceware can work with any webcam (it can even work with video - I have a tutorial showing how to do this). If you had *nothing* in the way of hardware, the two systems are about a wash pricewise. I absolutely cannot do without facial mocap, as I can't live long enough to do what I can do with it. This is pricey stuff, though, so for anyone thinking about facial mocap you need to be fairly committed (or perhaps very lucky in what you already have - more in a moment). I'm not going to play around more with adjustments because, as I said, I am almost certainly going to use CC3 exclusively for my content when it's released, and I think adjustments made now for the CC1 model won't necessarily be correct then. I think there are enough parameters to adjust for the facial capture that you can get close to exactly what you want from almost either system, but I do think that Faceshift has an edge on the more 'subtle' movements. (If you have the time for such, it would be appreciated). As an owner of *both* systems, can you give us a breakdown of what software / hardware is required to get into each of these setups (with a price comparison)? I think that would be a most helpful and *interesting* to see. But Mike - I'm somewhat *confused* regarding the 'setup' requirements (especially RL's).

I don't have a *reference* point (ie: actor and puppet side by side), to *really* know. FaceWare's lips respond *more accurately* to me, but the overall 'volume' (cavity) of the mouth seems excessive - but maybe adjustable? (And the lips don't *make contact* as much?).

(And I see what you mean re: the 'smiling'). I like the 'overall' look of *faceshift* - it's seems more 'natural' to me, though it 'misses' (I feel), in phoneme *accuracy*. Great to see these tests Mike! (Sorry, I only just discovered this thread).

Faceshift studio 1.2